Submissions from 2022-12-04 to 2022-12-05 (4 total)

A submission for Daily Art Club

i enjoy listening to foreign language content while drawing occasionally. this guide will be a longshot that anyone here wants this

'best' way to learn languages:

works for any of the most-spoken ~10-20 languages in the world

download 'drops language app' on your phone. its basically Anki but not crappy. (has other memorization techniques far better than just the self-reporting SRS that Anki does). grind this app to learn the ~2500 of the most frequent words spoken in the language. my advice for which words to add/not add to the app's vocab when they come up in the app:
1. Don't add any of the junk phrases the app has started adding recently, anything longer than 2 or 3 words, just don't add it to the vocab mix. leave it hidden. anything longer than 2 or 3 words is a pain to have to input caus they're so long... usually its made up of words that are taught in other cards in the app anyway, so pointless pretty much.
2. Don't add any words in the language you already know... don't add them to the vocab mix if you already know them
3. Don't add any words that sound similar to an english word, e.g. don't add "el limon" in spanish caus its similar enough to "lemon". dont bother adding it until youve finished all the other ~2000 words. (probably you dont want to add about 1/10 of the words at least)
4. Don't bother using Drops language app on PC. the implementation is trash and pretty sure the company has sold out at this point so it will prob never get fixed. theres no hotkeys, no typing input, nothing. its just a mobile app on PC which is pretty shit. just use it on phone if you can.
5. The nice thing about Drops, they do seem to add more words, like every month. and a lot of it is garbage long phrases, but i assume they'll continue adding words so maybe in a few years it'll be up to 3000/4000 words idk. i think its about 2500 words for every language atm... not sure.

so you do this to grind the 2500 words. the next step is to grind duolingo. people think duolingo is good for learning vocab. its not. drops app is good for vocab caus it helps you memorise each word with an individual picture and SRS included in the exercises it runs through. what duolingo is really good for is learning the grammar of a language. i wouldn't advise using duolingo on phone. its fine. id only use duolingo if you can touch type, and mainly only use it on PC. i think you'd want to create some custom AutoHotKey macro presses for your keyboard to use duolingo on PC more easily. theres a hotkey {ctrl down}{space}{ctrl up} built into pc duolingo which replays audio for example, i remap this to just {tab} in autohotkey. and things for switching keyboard layout to a different language in one press, if needed, and also things for sending {enter} twice in one press (i think something like send, {enter} sleep, 800 send, {enter} can be useful) etc. you can figure it out easy if youve done any programming.

so after you've finished grinding drops app and duolingo you have a vocab of ~3500 words maybe who knows. for reference, Harry Potter 1 has around 5k unique words, afaik. so its a good choice. the good thing about harry potter 1 is it's translated into every language ever created. and all of the top ~20 languages have a free audiobook upload somewhere on youtube.... you can listen to this audiobook 24/7 in any language, even english. you prob want to memorise harry potter 1 if you want to learn multiple languages.

but i think the main content thats really good for learning languages is twitch. if you go to twitch stat sites, you can filter by language spoken... and just click through all the top twitch streamers of any given language, until you find streamers that talk incessantly and plays video games. once you find a twitch streamer in a language, if you look in the bottom left of twitch's interface you'll see "viewers of this channel also watch" - this another way to find more channels to check out. you should be able to come up with a list of 5 or 10 of these streamers that you enjoy just in 1-3 hours of doing this... make sure the streamer leaves their vods up so you can watch them (some streamers require payment to view past broadcasts). the nice thing about this content, is a lot of the time these streamers play english video games, sometimes localized into their language. anyway it makes it easier to understand whats going on, easier to attach words that you can attach loosely to what's happening in the game. also, the twitch chat is a fun little puzzle. most commenters only make comments with 3-10 words, so its a fun game to try and guess what the viewer is saying, and then you can copy and paste it into google translate to see if you were close. i think the main advantage of watching twitch is its pretty natural conversation with slang... and its more natural than a podcast or an audiobook..... but whatever. the main part of this guide is to grind Drops language app first, then duolingo. doesn't have to be strict... just in general... if you instead, tried duolingo before drops, you'll be hovering your mouse over every other word to try and remember what the word meant. so you really wanna grind Drops app first before doing anything else. but you can listen to harry potter or twitch streams at any point as well. you can listen to harry potter audiobook while doing other things.... whatever....

so i think this is the best way to learn a language probably. takes too long to learn languages. do something else is my advice. english is good. but if you really want to learn a language. i think i have a good system... mostly this is an endorsement for Drops language app. its really good. except possible theyre sold out. pretty sure they were bought by some huge corporation. and the app will prob get shitter every day. except they are adding more words. just half of the words are shitty phrases and they even double add words lol... just put them in different sections. which is fine. i just dont think the app is going to get better. but its already great so it doesnt matter... its great app, best way to learn that 2500 vocab... really before the app was sold out, the app is actually fucking sick.... like really good design... youll see if you try it. its a great memorization tool... each word has custom image and the app uses spaced repetition well... really good design for memorizing quickly. oh you do need to pay for it.... but its worth it. you can do i think 5minutes per day, unlimited amount of days, before having to pay for it

guide for finding foreign language harry potter audiobook when you know nothing of the language:
1. find the name of the harry potter translation e.g. 'Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal' in spanish
2. type 'audiobook' into google translate -> translates to 'audio libro' in spanish... or also just try 'audiobook' instead
paste the above 2 things into youtube searchbar. for any of the top 10-20 languages there might be 2-3 different readers of the audiobook. pick the best reader

oh yeah check that drops and duolingo has the language you want to learn. ideally you'd want a language that is on both these sites. 'memrise' is the next best option ive found... people make their own custom language courses on the site. there are some pretty good ones with audio files for memorizing words.

i prefer listening to music while drawing... its pretty cool how easy it can be to learn languages today. foreign language sitcoms are another good choice. the sitcoms, unlike dramas, have non-stop dialogue, and the storylines are usually fun and enjoyable even if you dont know whats going on. a lot of it is more physical humour. dramas typically everyone is stone-face 80% of the time. sitcoms has more animated body language. dont watch dramas to learn a language. its stone-face... thirty seconds of no dialogue... more stone-face... dramatic music. and you dont even know whats happening. dont watch dramas to learn language

at some point i think having google translate on one half of the screen and some type of video/videopodcast/etc on the other half of screen can be good... and type constantly words you not sure of into google translate, with an AutoHotKey macro on Enter-keypress that sends {ctrl down}a{ctrl up}{delete} to quickly clear the field. another good one is listen to harry potter audiobook WHILE reading harry potter PDF at the same time can be a good handsfree exercise to get your head to be able to break up the string of an entire sentence into the separate words better. really i think draw with music caus english is pretty sick but do what you want